LIBSVM FAQ

last modified : Sun, 24 Oct 2004 01:42:17 GMT
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  • Q: Some courses which have used libsvm as a tool

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    Q: Where can I find documents of libsvm ?

    In the package there is a README file which details all options, data format, and library calls. The model selection tool and the python interface have a separate README under the directory python. The guide A practical guide to support vector classification shows beginners how to train/test their data. The paper LIBSVM : a library for support vector machines discusses the implementation of libsvm in detail.

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    Q: What are changes in previous versions?

    See the change log.

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    Q: I would like to cite libsvm. Which paper should I cite ?

    Please cite the following document:

    Chih-Chung Chang and Chih-Jen Lin, LIBSVM : a library for support vector machines, 2001. Software available at http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/~cjlin/libsvm

    The bibtex format is as follows

    @Manual{CC01a,
      author =	 {Chih-Chung Chang and Chih-Jen Lin},
      title =	 {{LIBSVM}: a library for support vector machines},
      year =	 {2001},
      note =	 {Software available at {\tt http://www.csie.ntu.edu.tw/\verb"~"cjlin/libsvm}},
    }
    

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    Q: I would like to use libsvm in my software. Is there any license problem?

    The libsvm license ("the modified BSD license") is compatible with many free software licenses such as GPL. Hence, it is very easy to use libsvm in your software. It can also be used in commercial products.

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    Q: Is there a repository of additional tools based on libsvm?

    Yes, see libsvm tools

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    Q: On unix machines, I got "error in loading shared libraries" or "cannot open shared object file." What happened ?

    This usually happens if you compile the code on one machine and run it on another which has incompatible libraries. Try to recompile the program on that machine or use static linking.

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    Q: I have modified the source and would like to build the graphic interface "svm-toy" on MS windows. How should I do it ?

    Build it as a project by choosing "Win32 Application." On the other hand, for "svm-train" and "svm-predict" you want to choose "Win32 Console Application." After libsvm 2.5, you can also use the file Makefile.win. See details in README.

    If you are not using Makefile.win and see the following link error

    LIBCMTD.lib(wwincrt0.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol
    _wWinMain@16
    
    you may have selected a wrong project type.

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    Q: I am an MS windows user but why only one (SVM_toy) of those precompiled .exe actually runs ?

    You need to open a command window and type svmtrain.exe to see all options. Some examples are in README file.

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    Q: Why sometimes not all attributes of a data appear in the training/model files ?

    libsvm uses the so called "sparse" format where zero values do not need to be stored. Hence a data with attributes

    1 0 2 0
    
    is represented as
    1:1 3:2
    

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    Q: What if my data are non-numerical ?

    Currently libsvm supports only numerical data. You may have to change non-numerical data to numerical. For example, you can use several binary attributes to represent a categorical attribute.

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    Q: Why do you consider sparse format ? Will the training of dense data be much slower ?

    This is a controversial issue. The kernel evaluation (i.e. inner product) of sparse vectors is slower so the total training time can be at least twice or three times of that using the dense format. However, we cannot support only dense format as then we CANNOT handle extremely sparse cases. Simplicity of the code is another concern. Right now we decide to support the sparse format only.

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    Q: The output of training C-SVM is like the following. What do they mean ?

    optimization finished, #iter = 219
    nu = 0.431030
    obj = -100.877286, rho = 0.424632
    nSV = 132, nBSV = 107
    Total nSV = 132

    obj is the optimal objective value of the dual SVM problem. rho is the bias term in the decision function sgn(w^Tx - rho). nSV and nBSV are number of support vectors and bounded support vectors (i.e., alpha_i = C). nu-svm is a somewhat equivalent form of C-SVM where C is replaced by nu. nu simply shows the corresponding parameter. More details are in libsvm document.

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    Q: Can you explain more about the model file ?

    After the parameters, each line represents a support vector. Support vectors are listed in the order of "labels" listed earlier. (i.e., those from the first class in the "labels" list are grouped first, and so on.) If k is the total number of classes, in front of each support vector, there are k-1 coefficients y*alpha where alpha are dual solution of the following two class problems:
    1 vs j, 2 vs j, ..., j-1 vs j, j vs j+1, j vs j+2, ..., j vs k
    and y=1 in first j-1 coefficients, y=-1 in the remaining k-j coefficients. For example, if there are 4 classes, the file looks like:

    +-+-+-+--------------------+
    |1|1|1|                    |
    |v|v|v|  SVs from class 1  |
    |2|3|4|                    |
    +-+-+-+--------------------+
    |1|2|2|                    |
    |v|v|v|  SVs from class 2  |
    |2|3|4|                    |
    +-+-+-+--------------------+
    |1|2|3|                    |
    |v|v|v|  SVs from class 3  |
    |3|3|4|                    |
    +-+-+-+--------------------+
    |1|2|3|                    |
    |v|v|v|  SVs from class 4  |
    |4|4|4|                    |
    +-+-+-+--------------------+
    

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    Q: Should I use float or double to store numbers in the cache ?

    We have float as the default as you can store more numbers in the cache. In general this is good enough but for few difficult cases (e.g. C very very large) where solutions are huge numbers, it might be possible that the numerical precision is not enough using only float.

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    Q: How do I choose the kernel ?

    In general we suggest you to try the RBF kernel first. A recent result by Keerthi and Lin ( download paper here) shows that if RBF is used with model selection, then there is no need to consider the linear kernel. The kernel matrix using sigmoid may not be positive definite and in general it's accuracy is not better than RBF. (see the paper by Lin and Lin ( download paper here). Polynomial kernels are ok but if a high degree is used, numerical difficulties tend to happen (thinking about dth power of (<1) goes to 0 and (>1) goes to infinity).

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    Q: Does libsvm have special treatments for linear SVM ?

    No, at this point libsvm solves linear/nonlinear SVMs by the same way. Note that there are some possible tricks to save training/testing time if the linear kernel is used. Hence libsvm is NOT particularly efficient for linear SVM, especially for problems whose number of data is much larger than number of attributes. If you plan to solve this type of problems, you may want to check bsvm, which includes an efficient implementation for linear SVMs. More details can be found in the following study: K.-M. Chung, W.-C. Kao, T. Sun, and C.-J. Lin. Decomposition Methods for Linear Support Vector Machines

    On the other hand, you do not really need to solve linear SVMs. See the previous question about choosing kernels for details.

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    Q: The number of free support vectors is large. What should I do ?

    This usually happens when the data are overfitted. If attributes of your data are in large ranges, try to scale them. Then the region of appropriate parameters may be larger. Note that there is a scale program in libsvm.

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    Q: Should I scale training and testing data in a similar way ?

    Yes, you can do the following:
    svm-scale -s scaling_parameters train_data > scaled_train_data
    svm-scale -r scaling_parameters test_data > scaled_test_data

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    Q: Does it make a big difference if I scale each attribute to [0,1] instead of [-1,1] ?

    For the linear scaling method, if the RBF kernel is used and parameter selection is conducted, there is no difference. Assume Mi and mi are respectively the maximal and minimal values of the ith attribute. Scaling to [0,1] means

                    x'=(x-mi)/(Mi-mi)
    
    For [-1,1],
                    x''=2(x-mi)/(Mi-mi)-1.
    
    In the RBF kernel,
                    x'-y'=(x-y)/(Mi-mi), x''-y''=2(x-y)/(Mi-mi).
    
    Hence, using (C,g) on the [0,1]-scaled data is the same as (C,g/2) on the [-1,1]-scaled data.

    Though the performance is the same, the computational time may be different. For data with many zero entries, [0,1]-scaling keeps the sparsity of input data and hence may save the time.

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    Q: The prediction rate is low. How could I improve it ?

    Try to use the model selection tool grid.py in the python directory find out good parameters. To see the importance of model selection, please see my talk: A practical guide to support vector classification

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    Q: My data are unbalanced. Could libsvm handle such problems ?

    Yes, there is a -wi options. For example, if you use

    svm-train -s 0 -c 10 -w1 1 -w-1 5 data_file

    the penalty for class "-1" is larger. Note that this -w option is for C-SVC only.

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    Q: What is the difference between nu-SVC and C-SVC ?

    Basically they are the same thing but with different parameters. The range of C is from zero to infinity but nu is always between [0,1]. A nice property of nu is that it is related to the ratio of support vectors and the ratio of the training error.

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    Q: The program keeps running without showing any output. What should I do ?

    You may want to check your data. Each training/testing data must be in one line. It cannot be separated. In addition, you have to remove empty lines.

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    Q: The program keeps running (with output, i.e. many dots). What should I do ?

    In theory libsvm guarantees to converge if the kernel matrix is positive semidefinite. After version 2.4 it can also handle non-PSD kernels such as the sigmoid (tanh). Therefore, this means you are handling ill-conditioned situations (e.g. too large/small parameters) so numerical difficulties occur.

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    Q: The training time is too long. What should I do ?

    This may happen for some difficult cases (e.g. -c is large). You can try to use a looser stopping tolerance with -e. If that still doesn't work, you may want to contact us. We can show you some tricks on improving the training time.

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    Q: How do I get the decision value(s) ?

    We print out decision values for regression. For classification, we solve several binary SVMs for multi-class cases, so you obtain values by easily calling the subroutine svm_predict_values. Their corresponding labels can be obtained from svm_get_labels. Details are in README of libsvm package.

    We do not recommend the following. But if you would like to get values for TWO-class classification with labels +1 and -1 (note: +1 and -1 but not things like 5 and 10) in the easiest way, simply add

    		printf("%f\n", dec_values[0]*model->label[0]);
    
    after the line
    		svm_predict_values(model, x, dec_values);
    
    of the file svm.cpp. Positive (negative) decision values correspond to data predicted as +1 (-1).

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    Q: For some problem sets if I use a large cache (i.e. large -m) on a linux machine, why sometimes I get "segmentation fault ?"

    On 32-bit machines, the maximum addressable memory is 4GB. The Linux kernel uses 3:1 split which means user space is 3G and kernel space is 1G. Although there are 3G user space, the maximum dymanic allocation memory is 2G. So, if you specify -m near 2G, the memory will be exhausted. And svm-train will fail when it asks more memory. For more details, please read this article.

    There are two ways to solve this. If your machine supports Intel's PAE (Physical Address Extension), you can turn on the option HIGHMEM64G in Linux kernel which uses 4G:4G split for kernel and user space. If you don't, you can try a software `tub' which can elimate the 2G boundary for dymanic allocated memory. The `tub' is available at http://www.bitwagon.com/tub.html.

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    Q: How do I disable screen output of svm-train and svm-predict ?

    Simply update svm.cpp:

    #if 1
    void info(char *fmt,...)
    
    to
    #if 0
    void info(char *fmt,...)
    

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    Q: I would like to use my own kernel but find out that there are two subroutines for kernel evaluations: k_function() and kernel_function(). Which one should I modify ?

    The reason why we have two functions is as follows: For the RBF kernel exp(-g |xi - xj|^2), if we calculate xi - xj first and then the norm square, there are 3n operations. Thus we consider exp(-g (|xi|^2 - 2dot(xi,xj) +|xj|^2)) and by calculating all |xi|^2 in the beginning, the number of operations is reduced to 2n. This is for the training. For prediction we cannot do this so a regular subroutine using that 3n operations is needed. The easiest way to have your own kernel is to put the same code in these two subroutines by replacing any kernel.

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    Q: What method does libsvm use for multi-class SVM ? Why don't you use the "1-against-the rest" method ?

    It is one-against-one. We chose it after doing the following comparison: C.-W. Hsu and C.-J. Lin. A comparison of methods for multi-class support vector machines , IEEE Transactions on Neural Networks, 13(2002), 415-425.

    "1-against-the rest" is a good method whose performance is comparable to "1-against-1." We do the latter simply because its training time is shorter.

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    Q: After doing cross validation, why there is no model file outputted ?

    Cross validation is used for selecting good parameters. After finding them, you want to re-train the whole data without the -v option.

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    Q: I would like to try different random partition for cross validation, how could I do it ?

    Right now we use the default seed so each time when you run svm-train -v, folds of validation data are the same. To have different seeds, you can add the following code in svm-train.c:

    #include <time.h>
    
    and in the beginning of the subroutine do_cross_validation(),
    srand(time(0));
    

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    Q: I would like to solve L2-SVM (i.e., error term is quadratic). How should I modify the code ?

    It is extremely easy. Taking c-svc for example, only two places of svm.cpp have to be changed. First, modify the following line of solve_c_svc from

    	s.Solve(l, SVC_Q(*prob,*param,y), minus_ones, y,
    		alpha, Cp, Cn, param->eps, si, param->shrinking, param->cal_partial, param->gamma);
    
    to
    	s.Solve(l, SVC_Q(*prob,*param,y), minus_ones, y,
    		alpha, INF, INF, param->eps, si, param->shrinking, param->cal_partial, param->gamma);
    
    Second, in the class of SVC_Q, declare C as a private variable:
    	double C;
    
    In the constructor we assign it to param.C:
            this->C = param.C;		
    
    Than in the the subroutine get_Q, after the for loop, add
            if(i >= start && i < len) 
    		data[i] += 1/C;
    
    For one-class svm, the modification is exactly the same. For SVR, you don't need an if statement like the above. Instead, you only need a simple assignment:
    	data[real_i] += 1/C;
    

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    Q: There seems to be a zero division ?

    We intend to have this zero division. Under the IEEE floating point standard, zero division will returns infinity. Then with the operations later to bound it, things go back to normal numbers without any problem. In general no warning messages happen. On some computers, you may need to add an option (e.g. -mieee on alpha). Reasons of doing so are described in libsvm document.

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    Q: How do I choose parameters for one-class svm as training data are in only one class ?

    You have pre-specified true positive rate in mind and then search for parameters which achieve similar cross-validation accuracy.

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    Q: Why training a probability model (i.e., -b 1) takes longer time ?

    To construct this probability model, we internaly conduct a cross validation, which is more time consuming than a regular training. Hence, in general you do parameter selection first without -b 1. You only use -b 1 when good parameters have been selected. In other words, you avoid using -b 1 and -v together.

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    Q: How can I save images drawn by svm-toy?

    For Microsoft windows, first press the "print screen" key on the keyboard. Open "Microsoft Paint" (included in Windows) and press "ctrl-v." Then you can clip the part of picture which you want. For X windows, you can use the program "xv" to grab the picture of the svm-toy window.

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    Q: I press the "load" button to load data points but why svm-toy does not draw them ?

    The program svm-toy assumes both attributes (i.e. x-axis and y-axis values) are in (0,1). Hence you want to scale your data to between a small positive number and a number less than but very close to 1. Moreover, class labels must be 1, 2, or 3 (not 1.0, 2.0 or anything else).

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    Q: I would like svm-toy to handle more than three classes of data, what should I do ?

    Taking windows/svm-toy.cpp as an example, you need to modify it and the difference from the original file is as the following: (for five classes of data)

    30,32c30
    < 	RGB(200,0,200),
    < 	RGB(0,160,0),
    < 	RGB(160,0,0)
    ---
    > 	RGB(200,0,200)
    39c37
    < HBRUSH brush1, brush2, brush3, brush4, brush5;
    ---
    > HBRUSH brush1, brush2, brush3;
    113,114d110
    < 	brush4 = CreateSolidBrush(colors[7]);
    < 	brush5 = CreateSolidBrush(colors[8]);
    155,157c151
    < 	else if(v==3) return brush3;
    < 	else if(v==4) return brush4;
    < 	else return brush5;
    ---
    > 	else return brush3;
    325d318
    < 	  int colornum = 5;
    327c320
    < 		svm_node *x_space = new svm_node[colornum * prob.l];
    ---
    > 		svm_node *x_space = new svm_node[3 * prob.l];
    333,338c326,331
    < 			x_space[colornum * i].index = 1;
    < 			x_space[colornum * i].value = q->x;
    < 			x_space[colornum * i + 1].index = 2;
    < 			x_space[colornum * i + 1].value = q->y;
    < 			x_space[colornum * i + 2].index = -1;
    < 			prob.x[i] = &x_space[colornum * i];
    ---
    > 			x_space[3 * i].index = 1;
    > 			x_space[3 * i].value = q->x;
    > 			x_space[3 * i + 1].index = 2;
    > 			x_space[3 * i + 1].value = q->y;
    > 			x_space[3 * i + 2].index = -1;
    > 			prob.x[i] = &x_space[3 * i];
    397c390
    < 				if(current_value > 5) current_value = 1;
    ---
    > 				if(current_value > 3) current_value = 1;
    

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    Q: What is the difference between Java version and C++ version of libsvm?

    They are the same thing. We just rewrote the C++ code in Java.

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    Q: Is the Java version significantly slower than the C++ version?

    This depends on the VM you used. We have seen good VM which leads the Java version to be quite competitive with the C++ code. (though still slower)

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    Q: While training I get the following error message: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError. What is wrong?

    You should try to increase the maximum Java heap size. For example,

    java -Xmx256m svm_train.java ...
    
    sets the maximum heap size to 256M.

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    Q: Why you have the main source file svm.m4 and then transform it to svm.java?

    Unlike C, Java does not have a preprocessor built-in. However, we need some macros (see first 3 lines of svm.m4).

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    Q: Using python on MS windows, it fails to load the dll file.

    It seems the dll file is version dependent. So far we haven't found out a good solution. Please email us if you have any good suggestions.

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    Q: How to modify the python interface on MS windows and rebuild the dll file ?

    To modify the interface, follow the instructions given in http://www.swig.org/Doc1.1/HTML/Python.html#n2

    If you just want to build DLL for a different python version, after libsvm 2.5, you can easily use the file Makefile.win. See details in README. Alternatively, you can use Visual C++:

    1. Create a Win32 DLL project and set (Build->Active Configuration) to "Release."
    2. Add svm.cpp, svmc_wrap.c, python2x.lib to your project.
    3. Add the directories containing Python.h and svm.h to the Additional include directories. (in Project Settings->C/C++->Preprocessor)
    4. add __WIN32__ to Preprocessor definitions
    5. Make sure that in the "General" category of Project->Settings->Settings For "Win32 Release", Output directories should be "Release"
    6. Build the DLL.

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    Q: Except the python-C++ interface provided, could I use Jython to call libsvm ?

    Yes, here are some examples:

    $ export CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:~/libsvm-2.4/java/libsvm.jar
    $ ./jython
    Jython 2.1a3 on java1.3.0 (JIT: jitc)
    Type "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
    >>> from libsvm import *
    >>> dir()
    ['__doc__', '__name__', 'svm', 'svm_model', 'svm_node', 'svm_parameter',
    'svm_problem']
    >>> x1 = [svm_node(index=1,value=1)]
    >>> x2 = [svm_node(index=1,value=-1)]
    >>> param = svm_parameter(svm_type=0,kernel_type=2,gamma=1,cache_size=40,eps=0.001,C=1,nr_weight=0,shrinking=1)
    >>> prob = svm_problem(l=2,y=[1,-1],x=[x1,x2])
    >>> model = svm.svm_train(prob,param)
    *
    optimization finished, #iter = 1
    nu = 1.0
    obj = -1.018315639346838, rho = 0.0
    nSV = 2, nBSV = 2
    Total nSV = 2
    >>> svm.svm_predict(model,x1)
    1.0
    >>> svm.svm_predict(model,x2)
    -1.0
    >>> svm.svm_save_model("test.model",model)
    
    

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    Q: How could I install the python interface on Mac OS?

    According to S V N Vishwanathan in Australian National University, instead of LDFLAGS = -shared in the Makefile, you need

    LDFLAGS = -bundle -flat_namespace -undefined suppress
    

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